Welcome back to the Healing Pain Podcast with Jason Prall
To increase lifespan and longevity, practitioners as well as patients need to identify what they are doing incorrectly with their health practices and lifestyles. Jason Prall believes that the biggest component to the destruction of our health is the error in our ways of using technology, our bodies taking in toxins from food production, and even emotional traumas. He teaches people the mental framework of a healthy lifestyle and the emotional components of health, where it comes from and how we can incorporate them in our lives.
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We’re going to dive into a topic that I know will interest you because who doesn’t want to live a long and healthy life? If you’ve been following the research and the data that has been accumulating around those with chronic pain, you realize that not only are you at risk for a decreased quality of life, you may also have some risk factors that lead to a shortened lifespan. The data does not fully support that your life may be shortened due to pain, but we do know that those with chronic pain syndromes are more likely to be sedentary and less active, obese or overweight, have poor nutrition habits, as well as be depressed. All of these have been linked to an increase in morbidity as well as mortality. Personally, lifespan and longevity has always fascinated me. The reason why it fascinated me is because when I was growing up, I had both sets of my grandparents alive. On my dad’s side, that set of grandparents actually live to the ripe old age of 92. Their physical function and health was pretty good right up until a couple of weeks before they passed, which is the way life should be. My other set of grandparents on my mom’s side, they lived to about 75 or 77. If you’re doing the math on that, that’s about a fifteen-year difference between the two sets of grandparents. I don’t know about you but with an extra fifteen years of healthy living, you can accomplish and experience a lot of what life has to offer.
Joining me on the podcast is a good friend of mine named Jason Prall who is a human longevity expert. Over the past two years, Jason and a film crew have traveled the globe examining and studying some of the world’s healthiest populations. During this time, not only did Jason go to some of the world’s most remote locations and personally interviewed people in their 80s, 90s, and 100s, but he also spoke with some of the world’s health experts on longevity and chronic disease. I had the pleasure of not only speaking with Jason, but he also interviewed me for this amazing documentary movie called The Human Longevity Project. The Human Longevity Project is an upcoming documentary film series that will take you on an exciting journey around the globe on a mission to discover the secrets of the longest lived and healthiest populations on the planet. The film took two years to complete. They traveled to 50 locations in nine different countries and over three continents. The film will uncover some of the key lifestyle and environmental and physiologic components to avoid chronic disease, increase health span, and put the brakes on aging in our modern world. If you want free access to this event, all you have to do is open up your computer and type in the URL, www.DrJoeTatta.com/84 or you can pick up your iPhone or your Android and you can text the word 84Download to the number 44222. Make sure you get your free access to this incredible event.
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How To Increase Lifespan And Longevity Despite Pain with Jason Prall
Jason, welcome to the Healing Pain Podcast. It’s great to have you here.
Thanks for having me.
I’m super excited to talk to you because I know you’re just off of filming, directing, writing and producing The Human Longevity Project, which I’m super psyched for. I can’t wait for this film to launch. It’s going to help a lot of people. Can you tell us about your inspiration for setting out and tackling this project?
For me, it came down to when I was working with people that had chronic illness, chronic disease. I’m just noticing that, as practitioners, we are trying to come in after the fact and just do a lot of work. Part of that work is managing the disease and imbalance presentation that we’re seeing. The other part of that that you and I have had great discussions about this is the healing component. How do we teach people the lifestyle, the mental framework, the emotional components of what health is, where it comes from, and how to incorporate the health practices in their life? That’s not something a doctor or practitioner of any kind does. We can’t heal them. Only the body heals. We have to facilitate this understanding.
The motivation from the get-go was trying to produce something that was going to provide education, a fun way of teaching people and showing people what health is and where it comes from. When we look at some of these populations around the world and individuals that are living to 105 without chronic disease and no pain, it’s funny because you dealing in the world, people were not 105. They’re hunched over a little bit. They’re not physically perfect, but yet they don’t seem to have this massive chronic pain. We wanted to show what health looks like when you get to 80 and 90 and 100, to show what the environments looked like and the lifestyles that they grew up in. What we wanted to show was what health looks like in our 80s and 90s, what’s possible, and then also what we’re doing wrong.
A lot of the research that’s gone into studying some of these areas around the world, and some of the people that live a long time, focus on their characteristics and some of the things that they’re all doing. That’s great, but at the same time, it’s not like we can just do all these things and all of a sudden we’re healthy. We have to look at what we’re doing wrong here, the mistakes we’re making. A good example of this is how we’ve skewed so far from the natural ways of birthing and breastfeeding. If we’re talking about longevity and living healthy in your 80s, why would we focus on breastfeeding? It’s a major component to immune function and the way our whole body is set up. There are a lot of areas that I felt were missing from the longevity discussion, and more so not even longevity but just general health. How do we identify the things that we’re doing wrong, the errors in our ways, when it comes to technology and toxins and food production and emotional traumas, and on and on? How can we look at what we’re doing wrong as well because if it’s anything, it’s more of a component to the destruction of our health than even the things that other people are doing right?
I record a podcast every week, but I’ve never set out to record a film. I imagine that must be a huge undertaking. Tell us what that’s like to get the idea for this film. Where did this journey take you around the world?
It’s a massive undertaking to produce a film. When we watch films, whether a documentary or any other kind, we see the final product. It looks great but there’s so much that goes into that, particularly because there’s a lot of content that you have to sort through and figure out how this message is delivered. Even though we knew what we were hoping to deliver, we interviewed 100 experts, you being one of them, and there’s so much gold in what they’re saying and there’s just so much wisdom. How do you filter that? Part of it is just the difficulty in filtering all of the great messages that you’re getting. We traveled all around the US to talk to these experts that range from birthing practices and midwifery to emotional trauma and pain experts like yourself and immune system experts and microbiota and mitochondria and exercise and diet, all these experts that are looking at how to facilitate this healthy lifestyle and what it’s doing to us when we err from these ways. We traveled to Japan, Greece, Italy, the UK, and Costa Rica. We talked to pretty fascinating people. These people live in a completely different world. This is what we forget. When we were studying these regions, in these areas around the world where people are living healthy, we forget that in 1970, they didn’t have electricity in some of these areas.
When you’re talking to somebody that’s 90 years old, that means they were born in the ‘20s or ‘30s. They lived 40 or 50 years of their life without electricity, which means the circadian rhythm and sleep wasn’t disrupted by artificial lights. They weren’t distracted by technology, which means their food production system is totally different because they didn’t have refrigeration, they didn’t have freezers. They had to eat what was around them, what was local, what was seasonal. They had to preserve foods for short periods of time. They couldn’t store meat in the freezer. We have to take a look at the context in which we’re studying these people and try to understand that.
Going into some of these places is truly mind blowing. When we were in Costa Rica, time stopped. We were there for work. Keep in mind, we’re not there vacationing. We’re still there on a mission to try to find these 100-year-olds. How do we get in touch with them and where are they? It’s stressful in that sense but what’s weird about, even though the fact that we were inducing a stressful state in ourselves, the environment itself is so calm, so serene, so slow. There was no hurry. There’s no rush. It made what we were doing almost inconsequential in terms of the stress levels. We felt like we had so much time. We’re only there for ten days and yet it felt like we had a month. What was fascinating was coming back to the US on the same mission, doing the same type of work, and yet a million emails and text messages and Facebook notifications. All of a sudden everything was on hyper-drive and we were late for everything.
It was weird to experience both sides of that with doing the same type of work, same timeline, same everything. It’s powerful when hopefully we finish this and show this, the final product. We can show this environment through film. That will hopefully be somewhat powerful for people to see that the complexity that we’ve built in the US is contributing to the stress, contributing to the feeling and the need to move faster and do more and get things done on time. It’s a bizarre thing to say that they live so much simply in these other places and yet they’re not in a rush. It was cool to go to all these areas, see different things. It’ll come through when we show that there are certain characteristics of these places that are very similar and other things are very different. The question then becomes how do we incorporate some of those lessons into our modern world knowing that we’ll never go back? We’re not going to go backwards in time.
I want to talk about some of the people you met. I met your cameraman, John, a great guy. It’s you and John traveling the world to these longevity zones. How are you finding these people that are 80, 90, 100 plus? How many people over the age of 100 did you interview?
This was the funny part. When you think about this, we’re in the US and we’re heading off to Costa Rica. You can’t locate a bunch of 100-year-olds and email them and say, “We’d love to interview you.” We basically show up. We were fortunate enough to randomly meet some people that can translate for us because that’s the other issues that we’ve got, translation issues. Costa Rica was a funny one. We’d show up and talk to a local in a small town and say, “We’re a film crew. We’re looking to interview older people in their 80s, 90s, 100s. Do you know anybody?” Then they would say, “There’s somebody over here. Go talk to so-and-so because they know everybody in town.” We’d go talk to them through a translator and tell the same story and they would lead us to somebody else. Eventually, we would probably find somebody that was in their 70s, 80s, 90s, or even 100. It was quite funny, John and I basically travel around with a bunch of gear trying to find and track down these 100-year-olds. We probably ended up with six or seven people over the age of 100 that we actually sat down and talked to. We talked to a lot of people in their 90s and some people in their 80s and 70s and even 60s. It’s sexy to try to talk to 100-year-old person. It’s cool and fun but at the same time, what we recognized in that process was that as soon as I get to 100 years old and beyond, it becomes difficult because the hearing is going, their minds aren’t as sharp, they may not exactly know what we’re trying to get at with some of the questions. This is an important thing. It sounds it’s all wonderful to be over 100 years old. People still slide down. Their health is going. Their hearing’s going, their eyesight’s going, their brain is going, their movement is slower.
It’s not when you get to 100, everything’s all good and that’s the definition of a healthy life. It’s more of how can we get to that point without all this pain and chronic disease and suffering and drugs and all these things? We talked to a lot of 70 and 80-year-olds and they were able to paint an amazing picture for what life was like back then. They could share with us their parents and their upbringing and also be very cognizant of the changes that they’re seeing in some of these areas now. This was a real eye opener that doesn’t get talked about. In Japan and Costa Rica and in parts of Italy, these longevity areas that we went to, I don’t think they’re going to be known for their longevity very much longer because they’re becoming westernized. The food is changing, the knowledge is changing.
I was just going over Christina Castillo’s interview and she’s 67.She was telling me about the foods that they used to eat, leaves of the cassava plant and flowers of the squash plants. They don’t eat these things anymore because people lost the knowledge, just like us in the West. We’ve lost the knowledge that we can eat the dandelions. We’ve lost the knowledge of some of the very basic food components that we can eat. It was cool to talk to the 70 to 80-year-olds that we found because they were very cognizant. They still could remember a time when things were more normal and they’re also aware of the changes that they’re seeing. It was cool to get a mix of those and also see some of that 90 and 100-year-olds that we got a chance to talk to as well.
You had some great generational links if you’re going 60, 70, 80, 90, 100 because you have a couple of generations that are piecing the film together for you which is awesome.
100% and their content is like gold. The stuff that they talk about, hunting lowland paca and deer, and some of the remedies for getting dengue fever and using papaya leaf tea and all these things. It was cool to hear some of their stories. To me, when we’re talking about longevity, that’s the important stuff. It’s not about what they’re doing now, that they’re mostly eating plants and they all eat beans and they drank wine. That’s interesting, but it doesn’t explain what’s going on there. You start to see the changes in health, and you have people that can describe the changes in health. In Costa Rica, they’re now exporting beans. Whereas when Christina was a kid, they didn’t export beans. Everything starts to shift when you start to think about these things in a bigger, grander perspective as opposed to, “They ate beans. That’s a health thing.” It doesn’t explain anything. We can paint a better picture.
One of the things I’m thinking about is the average American has a very poor health basically. As you well know as a practitioner, a lot of Americans also don’t travel to remote places around the world. I’m trying to put myself in your shoes and your eyes. You’re an American. You have lived in United States most of your life and now you’re going to come to some of the most remote places that the average American is never going to see, but you’re going to be delivering them this awesome information. How long is it going to take them to synthesize what someone else’s life is like that lives to a 100 versus their life where they may be 50 or 60 living with a chronic disease supposedly in a country that has the best healthcare in the entire planet?
It’ll be very easy and quick. It’s primal. Everything that we’re showing and that these people are saying and that even some of the health experts that we’ve got on there, it makes sense. When it’s intuitive and it makes sense and it’s simple, zit resonates. All of a sudden, we start to break down the dogmas of “I’ve got this disease process, do I do a Ketogenetic diet or do I do a vegetarian diet? I avoid all of these lectins and avoid all these phytates and avoid dairy and all these things.” Hopefully, what we’ll do with this is break all that down a little bit to show that it’s the other issues that are creating the problems that we’re then trying to solve. If we address everything on the whole, then all those problems that are arising that we have to find solutions for don’t exist. Therefore, we don’t have to seek the complex solutions.
You and I talked about this in terms of emotional health and traumas that we experienced in childhood or otherwise, and how much that plays a role in physical pain and digestive and immune system function and nervous system function. When you have your nervous system tipped out of balance, anything can go wrong. SIBO and all these weird diagnosis that we come up with in our integrative functional world that we’re seeing are just ways to describe the imbalances that we’re seeing. The root causes are lifestyle, emotional, mental and diet. That’s what’s going on. The goal is to paint a big picture as opposed to try to focus on a therapeutic thing. When you start to see that, it just makes sense and it’s so easy to wrap your head around.
The hard part is how do we incorporate some of this in our crazy modern world? We’re not necessarily given a lot of the same opportunities for good community, for family units that are tied together. It can be a challenge, but that’s the question that we need to be asking. The focus that we need to be directing as a society is on how do we facilitate these things? In the era of being able to order Uber Eats from my phone and get delivered to me while I work because I’m super busy, how do we switch that and go, “Technology is now isolating me from the outside world.” Food used to be one of the biggest primary motivators for us to come together and talk and have fun and drink wine and play music and dance. By one simple technological advancement of a phone integrating with the delivery service, I’m never moving myself from all of that. No fun, no community, no slowing down, no good food, nothing. We have to look at the direction that we’re heading. If we can step back and see that by having a meal as a family or a friend or group and hopefully try to incorporate organic local stuff, we’ve solved so many problems. We solved the community, the slower eating, the healthy food options, the fun.
It’s not like you traveled the world and you went to these places and spoke to these elder people and said, “Do you eat a Paleo Diet, a Mediterranean diet?” They have never even heard of any of that.
No. I asked somebody. He was a younger guy in Costa Rica. He spoke English so it made for a good conversation. His family was actually one of the first people in Sámara which is the local town that we were staying in. He had a good lineage in terms of knowledge and understanding and he was very conscious. He was a tour guide. He was able to see the Americans and see all these tourists coming in and how crazy they were in terms of their habits. I asked him, “Does anybody you know have digestive issues or anything like that?”He looked at me and said, “What do you mean? They can’t go to the bathroom?” I’m like, “Bloating or gas or anything, reflux.” He looked at me and he’s like, “No.” My grandfather maybe but he’s 85. He’s got some things but other than that, no.” It’s the most basic thing. I asked him about sleep, too. He said, “No.” These are laughable to them because they just don’t understand why we would have those problems. The value of going to these places is to see how far we’ve deterred from the natural ways of things. When you see the patience and the compassion in the community and the desire to help and the goodwill of these people in some of these places, it’s truly mind blowing.
If you were trying to go find centenarians in the US, and you track down maybe somebody who knew somebody or a family member, what are the odds that you can just go up and knock on their door out of the blue and interview them for an hour and a half? Then they feed you a meal because you’re there and they tell stories and they take you out and show you their farm and the way they raise the cows. It’s not all that likely in my experience, and yet that’s exactly what we experienced over there. Literally, we’d come and they’d invite us in. We have tea with them or we’d have a meal. In fact, not only would they invite us, they would insist that we did that. The positive side of that is that it shows you the good nature of humanity. We don’t see it as frequently and as consistently here in the US. We see a lot of the downsides of the political landscape, the financial landscape, and the corporate landscape and all these things, but it showed the beauty of people and how we can behave and how we can come together in such basic ways.
On this podcast, we talk about something called the biopsychosocial structure of helping people with pain. People get the bio and the psycho pretty easily. The social is this intangible thing. A lot of what you’re talking about is that you can walk into a town and someone will just spend 10 to 60 minutes talking with you and then invite you into their home for some tea or a glass of wine or an entire meal, where in the US, most people don’t even invite their neighbors into their home anymore. You obviously go deep into nutrition in this. You go deep into a lot of different lifestyle areas. When you look back, how much of this was a social experiment in a lot of ways?
100 %. The social, mental and emotional fabric of a culture is where everything stems from. It’s the root of everything. That’s where everything can go sideways or it can facilitate everything else. If we look at a small community, a village, first of all, the limited number of people brings this tribal nature into existence, which is that we’re all there to help each other and support each other. We’re not there to fight over resources or compete in any sense. It also facilitates accountability. If you’ve ever been a part of a small group, whether it be a sports team or an orchestra or whatever, you have a group all aiming towards the same goal. If you’re the one that’s doing things out of sync, everybody else is affected and you feel bad. There’s less likelihood that you’re going to do it because you don’t like the feeling. Also, everybody else is going to look at you and go, “Why are you doing it that way? What are you doing? We’re supposed to be working together.” That is a huge contributor to what’s going on. If I’m growing certain foods and you’re growing other foods, we can work together.
We were in Greece where we’re talking to somebody and they were telling us how back in the day, if somebody needed something built, a shed or a house or whatever, the community, the small little village, will get together and go help Joe build his house. By you thriving and having a good place to live and growing your vegetables and doing your things and providing your expertise, that’s a benefit to me. All of a sudden, we see the social fabric woven in to everything that’s happening because we’re all there supporting each other and working together just like a sports team would. It is a social experiment and everything that stems from that will either be things that are beneficial to us or we start to get into this segregated, separated society that is then operating in isolation which starts to degrade every aspect of our social fabric.
For profit organization to come into a community to help people out, this would just happen naturally and organically in a smaller town or a smaller village or even a smaller city where people just adopt those types of values basically.
One more example I want to give to you on that was fascinating. I forgot the name of it, but it was in Japan. We were talking to a guy. This is common. This isn’t just a unique thing. They get a group of like ten or twelve. It was mostly men that did this. They still have traditional ways of operating in Japan and they would all contribute a certain amount of money per month to this pot of money. Let’s say it was $1,000 a month and when it reached $50,000, one of those ten or twelve people could use it to do whatever they needed to do, whether it was build something or fix something or get an operation or whatever. Then they would keep pooling money together, and then when somebody else needed something, they can use it. It was like a joint savings account between ten or twelve people that are friends. They’re not in business together yet they are donating to each other and using their collective power to influence something that was beneficial. Again, this wasn’t a unique thing for them. It’s built into their society. We can learn so much. These are very basic examples. It shows that they’re more focused on working together to solve problems as opposed to in isolation or to out-compete the other person to get the resources.
As a practitioner, you are very well versed in things like the microbiome and mitochondria. You’ve interviewed practitioners in this documentary. If you’re sitting down with someone who’s in their 80s or 90s, they’re not going to know what the microbiome is. They probably haven’t heard about mitochondrial function. How easy was it for you to start to make those connections as a practitioner to see how their lifestyle was affecting those two important factors?
One of the things we wanted to discuss in this film was if we’re going to talk about aging and longevity, you have to first identify what that means biologically. In other words, where does aging happen in the body? It’s a loaded, weird, big question. Ultimately, we are just a bunch of cells. We contain lots of different organisms. My hypothesis going in was that there are three main genetic components to us as humans. One is our somatic cell DNA, the human DNA that we think of. Then we have mitochondria which operate in a cell and are part of us, but they have their own DNA, too. We have mitochondrial DNA, we’ve got human DNA, but then more importantly, we have a huge number of microbiota that exists within our gut, in our brain, in our blood, the vaginal canal, the mouth, not only on our skin but deep within our skin. We have microbiota everywhere and they have genes. My hypothesis is that it’s the interaction between these three genetic operators and it’s the communication between those three things. Everything else in biology that we talk about are just manifestations of the communication of those three things. We wanted to focus on the lifestyle, dietary, emotional, and mental things that contribute to the operation of these three genetic components.
What we tried to explore with some of the experts was how does everything we’re doing affect the mitochondria? How does everything we are doing affect the microbiota and our genetic expression? When you started to break that down, we can see if we do some of these good things, like exercise or intermittent fasting or get good sleep, how that translates to nervous system function and microbiota function and mitochondria function and how that will facilitate basically good genetic expression from our human cells. What we’re talking about with all this stuff is this overarching concept of epigenetics, the epigenome or how our genes get expressed. The question is what effects that? It’s how our microbiota signal to our genes, how our mitochondria signal to our genes, how food signals to our genes, how our emotional and mental states signal to our genes. You can factor everything in and filter it down to the expression of genes via microbiota, mitochondria, and the human genome. That’s what the goal was, to show even some of these more abstract concepts like purpose. What the hell is purpose and how do you find it? Where is it and does it change? How do we even know when we have it? It’s a weird concept, but there’s a large body of work that shows that having a purpose in life facilitates good health and longevity. The question is how?
When we think of microbiota, mitochondria, and DNA, purpose affects all of those things. We can explain that. There are mechanisms that we can use to on a grand picture and explain that. The reason that we wanted to and the real driving factor for explaining how purpose and community and emotional trauma affects mitochondria, microbiota, and DNA, even though most people don’t think about it that way, is that it finally allows us to look at those things and go, “That’s why emotional trauma is so important. That’s why having a purpose can be so important. That’s why community is important. That’s why this diet or that diet or this exercise or that exercise or environmental toxins.” We can start to see and paint a picture of why these things are important to focus on. Getting outside and getting in the sun, all these things that we talk about in the integrative health world as being good for us are so boring. “I got autoimmune disease. You’re going to tell me, I need to go outside. Yeah and here’s why.” Even though it’s complex, it starts to tie the body together as a whole. We can start to think about cells and genetic things going on as opposed to “I’ve got a thyroid problem. I’ve got a liver problem.” I don’t think it operates that way. It operates as cells.
Did it change your perspective as a practitioner in what you’ve done and still do with patients on a daily, weekly and monthly basis?
I wouldn’t say it changed anything necessarily except to say that it probably highlighted the greater need to focus on emotional trauma and connections. Even though I was focused before, it drove it home even more to see how the emotional and social frameworks of these places were so vastly different than what we experience here. It just showed me that there was probably more power there than we even think of, even if we’re aware of that as being a component. To me, it’s been a lifestyle game. Emotional, lifestyle and mental frameworks to me is how you undo an unwind disease. There are management techniques. We can use to move it toward the physical side of things like crutches are important, casts are important when you break a leg, but you don’t want to be in a cast or using crutches the rest of your life. You have to facilitate the improvement of health. How do you avoid those things? You do lifestyle things. To me, it always comes back down to the same things, which is why in some of these areas, it’s not like they have the best medical systems. It’s not a medical solution that we’re looking for. It’s a lifestyle solution that we’re looking for. It becomes obvious where the real problems are. It’s in our lifestyle. It’s not in a medical system, even though we have a lot of problems with our medical system. It became more obvious to focus on the lifestyle.
I’m going to ask you a couple of questions now rapid fire style so you can answer with one short little word or short little phrase, whatever comes to mind first. Question one, fill in the blank, the greatest myth about longevity is?
That you need to focus on telomeres.
The greatest truth about longevity is?
That it’s worth striving for.
The greatest thing I learned about longevity is?
That it’s not an individual game. It’s a collective game.
The one message you want people to walk away with after watching your movie and documentary?
The power is in your hands. Take personal responsibility. You have health built within you. It’s all about empowering you to make the good decisions so that you can take control of your own life.
Tell us how many days this longevity project goes over as people log on and watch it?
Right now, it’s a nine-part series. We may be breaking that up into ten parts just because we have a lot of amazing content. It’s either nine or ten, I’m not sure yet. We’ll release it on May 7th or the 17th or something to that effect. We might have a little replay if people are enjoying the content. We’ll be starting to get the word out a little prior to May 7th, but it’ll be free online for about ten days. The goal of this is to get as many people to see this and open their eyes to empower them. If you’ve seen any other docu series out there, one of the ways we’re trying to be a little different is to put the power back into your hands as a person in control of their health. Health is built within. It’s innate. It’s within your DNA. We just have to figure out how to turn on those genes. The goal of this thing is to empower people to take back their health and not resolve chronic disease in a sense. Ironically, when you start to induce health, disease magically goes away. It’s like flipping on a light. You don’t have to figure out how to get all the darkness out of the room, you just flip on the light. It’s taking that approach.
I want to thank Jason Prall. He’s the director, writer and producer of The Human Longevity Project. He’s a longevity and optimal health practitioner. There are over 110 experts combined with people in their 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and 100s. It’s a fantastic project. I was honored to be a part of it and talk about pain and chronic pain because, as Jason mentioned, there are many people who live well into the 100s that don’t have chronic pain. If you have chronic pain or you’re a practitioner who treats people with chronic disease, there are tons of great nuggets and lessons here. I encourage you all to log on and check it out. I want to thank all of you for joining me on the Healing Pain Podcast. As always, make sure you hop onto your favorite social media handle, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, and share this out with your friends and family.
About Jason Prall
Jason Prall is a Longevity and Optimal Health Practitioner who works remotely with individuals around world to provide solutions for those struggling with weight loss or suffering from complex health issues that their doctors have been unable to resolve. In May, Jason will be releasing a free online documentary film series called, “The Human Longevity Project”, which is set to uncover the complex mechanisms of chronic disease & aging and the true nature of longevity in our modern world.
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